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    Not sure if this is the right forum...

    I'm at a loss as to what I want to do for a career. Originally I wanted to be some hotshot photographer that traveled all over the world, yadayada...but it's not really possible with a family and hubby being military. I was still thinking about getting some kind of degree in the arts but, I'm nothing exceptional when it comes to art, it's just what I love to do. And with all the hipsters these days being a photographer/graphic designer is like saying you have two eyes. It's SO competitive and I don't want a job where I don't know if I'll have income one week or not because I have no choice but to do freelance, and I haven't a clue as to how to start my own business.

    My other thought was psychology. It's about the only other thing I have any interest in and am smart enough to do. BUT I figure if I'm going to do it, I'm going to aim for the top. But with that I have to consider the amount of time (yearssss) and money (um, a LOT) I'd have to put into it. The time would be manageable depending on whatever part time job I got but the money is an issue. And even if I went for it, I have no clue where to start since I flunked half my classes the last time I tried to do college (what I get for trying to go to school when I don't have a car) which was in a different state than where I am now. Other than that I have no idea what I would enjoy doing.

    So I guess my questions are,

    What's a career that would be enjoyable to an artist-type that is easily transferable?
    Once I figure out what to do, how do I go about getting into school? Should I do an online college? Enroll at a local college? But if I did that, how would that work when we have to move?

    It's been a while since I've had to do all this, and last time the scholarship I had paid 100% for community college so I didn't have to worry about anything but books.

    Any help is much appreciated.
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    Are you good with computers? What about graphic design? I'm pretty sure you can do that from anywhere in the world. I'm a Psych major and you're right. If you're going to go for it, you need to go for your Masters if you want to actually use your degree.

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    Once I figure out what to do, how do I go about getting into school? Should I do an online college? Enroll at a local college? But if I did that, how would that work when we have to move?
    Do you want to go to a CC or a University? You can take online classes at both and depending on what state you're living in and how old you are, you may be eligible for a lot of grants. The majority of my financial aid are grants. I'd say 75% are from grants, thankfully. If you want to go to a CC, it's pretty easy to enroll. You register on the website and for me, it was pretty close to automatic. Took them a few days to get back to me saying I was accepted. For a University, it was a longer process. I had to apply and send them my transcripts. You need to look at what school's you want to go to go that offer the degree you choose but either way, you have to get your general ed out of the way first.

    You may be able to retake those classes you failed for forgiveness and have them taken off your transcripts. That will bring your GPA up and that's better to do at a CC, IMO. You'd have to talk to an advisor to see whether you have to retake them at the same college or not. I don't know that information.

    I think that's all the info I can remember but if you have any more questions, you can PM me and I can help you research. I'm pretty good at that
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    I only have a few people's experiences to go on, but I'll tell you what I can. My sister (10 years older than me) got a degree in photography from a fancy art school. For a couple years she was able to do freelance installation-type projects but then it fizzled out and she hasn't been able to use her degree since, not for lack of trying. She later got a master's degree in artistic library science, which is basically a librarian degree with emphasis on art & curating. She works part time at an art library & part time at an art museum, but has never been able to move into an actual career position. It's been very, very hard for her.

    My exDB worked his butt off in a graphic design program, and had a full-time (but low paying) job by the time he graduated. It was REALLY hard though, he basically did nothing but art/design from 8 am - 10 pm every.single.day. It definitely contributed to the falling apart of our relationship. However, he was soon recruited to move out to San Francisco and now works for some fancy internet design company and makes serious bank. So it worked out for him. All of his classmates in the program also found jobs, everything from game design to restaurant menu design to advertising agencies. So I think graphic design still has some opportunity for jobs, and it works in a wide variety of fields.

    Honestly, I would say that you'd have a better time getting a degree in graphic design than psych. There are SO MANY PSYCH MAJORS. My university's psych classes were like over 400 students in the classes (in a school with only 6000 undergrads), and there is very little demand for psych degrees (bachelor's, anyways). If you don't think you want to or can go to grad school, I wouldn't do it. The ONLY psych degree I've seen that's gotten someone a job in their field was a friend of mine who was a Child Life Specialist. But, she told me now that the council of child life specialists is requiring a Master's, so she has to go back to school.

    As for online vs. in-person, I will always recommend in person. There is a lot you can get out of in-person school that is hard to get online, such as recommendations, work/internship opportunities, extra tutoring, and real relationships with classmate (who will become valuable networks later!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by rocket_lizz View Post
    I only have a few people's experiences to go on, but I'll tell you what I can. My sister (10 years older than me) got a degree in photography from a fancy art school. For a couple years she was able to do freelance installation-type projects but then it fizzled out and she hasn't been able to use her degree since, not for lack of trying. She later got a master's degree in artistic library science, which is basically a librarian degree with emphasis on art & curating. She works part time at an art library & part time at an art museum, but has never been able to move into an actual career position. It's been very, very hard for her.

    My exDB worked his butt off in a graphic design program, and had a full-time (but low paying) job by the time he graduated. It was REALLY hard though, he basically did nothing but art/design from 8 am - 10 pm every.single.day. It definitely contributed to the falling apart of our relationship. However, he was soon recruited to move out to San Francisco and now works for some fancy internet design company and makes serious bank. So it worked out for him. All of his classmates in the program also found jobs, everything from game design to restaurant menu design to advertising agencies. So I think graphic design still has some opportunity for jobs, and it works in a wide variety of fields.

    Honestly, I would say that you'd have a better time getting a degree in graphic design than psych. There are SO MANY PSYCH MAJORS. My university's psych classes were like over 400 students in the classes (in a school with only 6000 undergrads), and there is very little demand for psych degrees (bachelor's, anyways). If you don't think you want to or can go to grad school, I wouldn't do it. The ONLY psych degree I've seen that's gotten someone a job in their field was a friend of mine who was a Child Life Specialist. But, she told me now that the council of child life specialists is requiring a Master's, so she has to go back to school.

    As for online vs. in-person, I will always recommend in person. There is a lot you can get out of in-person school that is hard to get online, such as recommendations, work/internship opportunities, extra tutoring, and real relationships with classmate (who will become valuable networks later!)
    I just wanted to agree with this and give you my personal experience. Like I said, I'm a Psych major but unless I get into Grad school, I can't use my degree which kinda sucks but I also wouldn't change it for anything. I love the knowledge I've gained so it was worth it. It just depends on what your passion is.

    ETA: I also agree with the last part. In-person is so much better, IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rocket_lizz View Post
    I only have a few people's experiences to go on, but I'll tell you what I can. My sister (10 years older than me) got a degree in photography from a fancy art school. For a couple years she was able to do freelance installation-type projects but then it fizzled out and she hasn't been able to use her degree since, not for lack of trying. She later got a master's degree in artistic library science, which is basically a librarian degree with emphasis on art & curating. She works part time at an art library & part time at an art museum, but has never been able to move into an actual career position. It's been very, very hard for her.

    My exDB worked his butt off in a graphic design program, and had a full-time (but low paying) job by the time he graduated. It was REALLY hard though, he basically did nothing but art/design from 8 am - 10 pm every.single.day. It definitely contributed to the falling apart of our relationship. However, he was soon recruited to move out to San Francisco and now works for some fancy internet design company and makes serious bank. So it worked out for him. All of his classmates in the program also found jobs, everything from game design to restaurant menu design to advertising agencies. So I think graphic design still has some opportunity for jobs, and it works in a wide variety of fields.

    Honestly, I would say that you'd have a better time getting a degree in graphic design than psych. There are SO MANY PSYCH MAJORS. My university's psych classes were like over 400 students in the classes (in a school with only 6000 undergrads), and there is very little demand for psych degrees (bachelor's, anyways). If you don't think you want to or can go to grad school, I wouldn't do it. The ONLY psych degree I've seen that's gotten someone a job in their field was a friend of mine who was a Child Life Specialist. But, she told me now that the council of child life specialists is requiring a Master's, so she has to go back to school.

    As for online vs. in-person, I will always recommend in person. There is a lot you can get out of in-person school that is hard to get online, such as recommendations, work/internship opportunities, extra tutoring, and real relationships with classmate (who will become valuable networks later!)
    The bolded is SO true. It is very hard/impossible to get a well paying 'psych' related job without, at minimum, grad school if not more (usually more, be it MD or PhD). And to get into a good grad/PhD program you need to go to a good school for undergrad- one with a good reputation. TBH, a lot of grad programs in science fields wont accept online degrees, I mean, a class or two online, yea, but a full online degree? Still not being accepted in the scientific community for certain fields, especially ones that require human interactions post degree, such as medicine or psychology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.VinoVet View Post
    The bolded is SO true. It is very hard/impossible to get a well paying 'psych' related job without, at minimum, grad school if not more (usually more, be it MD or PhD). And to get into a good grad/PhD program you need to go to a good school for undergrad- one with a good reputation. TBH, a lot of grad programs in science fields wont accept online degrees, I mean, a class or two online, yea, but a full online degree? Still not being accepted in the scientific community for certain fields, especially ones that require human interactions post degree, such as medicine or psychology.
    My entire career right now only exists because one of my in-person professors took a liking to me, and applied to an internship on my behalf! She didn't even tell me until I'd been accepted! But I would literally not be where I am today without that opportunity. It got me research experience, recommendations for grad school, published articles, etc. I did some online classes as an undergrad (3 or 4) and the professors of those classes wouldn't even write letters of recommendation for students because they felt there was no way to get to know the student via online class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.VinoVet View Post
    The bolded is SO true. It is very hard/impossible to get a well paying 'psych' related job without, at minimum, grad school if not more (usually more, be it MD or PhD). And to get into a good grad/PhD program you need to go to a good school for undergrad- one with a good reputation. TBH, a lot of grad programs in science fields wont accept online degrees, I mean, a class or two online, yea, but a full online degree? Still not being accepted in the scientific community for certain fields, especially ones that require human interactions post degree, such as medicine or psychology.
    I don't really agree with that. There are many good paying jobs with just a Masters. You can become an Marriage and family therapist, a school counselor, and more. It depends on what your opinion is on what "good paying" is. No, you won't be earning six figures but you can make a decent living with just a Masters in Psych. It also depends on what type of Psychology you want to do. There are many fields. Clinical, MFT, neuroscience, etc. I go to Chico State and it's not the best of the best but people get into grad programs left and right from my school. I was just talking to a woman the other day who majored in Psych from Chico State, got her Masters in School Counseling, and has been a counselor at my old HS for quite a few years now. However, going to a distinguished school is always better. I was just giving you another perspective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jessym View Post
    I don't really agree with that. There are many good paying jobs with just a Masters. You can become an Marriage and family therapist, a school counselor, and more. It depends on what your opinion is on what "good paying" is. No, you won't be earning six figures but you can make a decent living with just a Masters in Psych. It also depends on what type of Psychology you want to do. There are many fields. Clinical, MFT, neuroscience, etc. I go to Chico State and it's not the best of the best but people get into grad programs left and right from my school. I was just talking to a woman the other day who majored in Psych from Chico State, got her Masters in School Counseling, and has been a counselor at my old HS for quite a few years now. However, going to a distinguished school is always better. I was just giving you another perspective.
    Thats why I said grad school if not more. Many, many people need more [than grad school]. Many people do not [need more than grad school]. But a bachelors is just a stepping stone for a psych job, not the final step.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.VinoVet View Post
    Thats why I said grad school if not more. Many, many people need more [than grad school]. Many people do not [need more than grad school]. But a bachelors is just a stepping stone for a psych job, not the final step.
    Oh, ok. I must have misunderstood. I was just adding to help the OP. I agree with you that a bachelors is not a final step.
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    Op, I think you need to think very broadly about the types of jobs you are interested in There are SO many options and many that people don't consider on a regular basis. What about being a teacher? You could teach art or psych/humanities in high school. What about social work? It uses a lot of psych knowledge but is easier to find a job without grad school. Also you could work at a photo agency, museum, or something related. Even if you start as a secretary or intern or something, you may be able to move up within the organization. Do you like business stuff at all? Marketing uses a lot of psychology.
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