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    Quote Originally Posted by villanelle View Post
    The donation situation for this one is far more complicated because the sailors and ship are in Singapore, rather than home in Japan. With the Fitz, there were huge clothing and necessity drives, and people going down to sew patches on uniforms, and to cook meals for sailors and families. There's some on the ground stuff like now, like meal drives for local families and baby sitting and that sort of thing, but as far as getting donations to sailors locally, there's not much. And they don't want people to just mail stuff to the ship, last I checked, because if they are inundated with packages, it can slow down getting the stuff they truly need. NMCRS is helping out, so that's maybe the best way to pitch in if you feel compelled to help right away. Probably also Red Cross, and with them if you want you can label your donations so it goes specifically to the McCain.
    I saw a post that NMCRS is taking monetary donations only right now for getting families to Singapore. The money donated on this link will only be used for the families attached to this ship it will not go into the big pot. https://donate.nmcrs.org/page/contribute/uss-mccain
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    thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by villanelle View Post
    I think it's unfair and kind of gross to speculate on this sort of thing, especially in public, and even more especially based on no actual facts or evidence (unless you happen to have those). We have almost no facts on the McCain incident at this point, but you are you tossing out rumors that a man is responsible for the deaths of multiple people under his protection. I think that's shitty as fuck, frankly. What if he isn't responsible, and you are smearing his name in one of the worst ways possible, simply because... what...? You want to be the one with the scoop? If the CO had some guilt in the matter, that will come out. Until then, you are disparaging his character based on nothing other than petty, ignorant speculation. People are dead. Why can't we just mourn that, rather than making this a juicy gossip fest? Gross.

    Imagine something happened in your DB's command, and people were posting on the internet that they heard your DB was negligent and therefore at least partly responsible for the deaths of his shipmates? How would that feel? And if it was based on nothing concrete or factual (yet)? It was just people with nothing better to do than gossip and use your DB as the root of that gossip?

    Sorry to unload like this, but I'm seeing so much ugliness about this incident and the Fitz, and I'm pretty much done with just ignoring it. This has hit the Navy Japan family so incredibly hard, and to see it used as gossip fodder by people is sickening, and salt in a very open wound.

    It was absolutely not my intention to come off negatively. I had read a few different articles that included statements and interviews that I based my statement off of, and it was certainly not my intention to smear the name of the CO (or anyone else involved). My DB had just come home from Japan when we met, and had been stationed on one of the ships that has had an accident this year. It worries me fiercely that something will happen on his ship on their next underway (or any of the many following). As for why I said what I did, it was in response to a different user's question "could this be a problem on Arleigh-Burke ships/could this be a fluke?" I was trying to respond with the knowledge I had on the situation, and was not my intention to come off as gossiping or disrespectful. I apologize for maybe not wording my response as well as I could have, and I'm deeply sorry if I sounded hurtful. Again, that was not my intent.
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    Thanks for saying that. I think it says a lot about you that you took my admittedly pretty aggressive post in a thoughtful, kind manner. I really appreciate that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by villanelle View Post
    Thanks for saying that. I think it says a lot about you that you took my admittedly pretty aggressive post in a thoughtful, kind manner. I really appreciate that.
    I will always admit when I am in the wrong. I feel terrible. I truly didn't mean to hurt anyone with that comment.

    I also have edited my previous comment to correct information/explain/apologize.
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