Don't ask Don't tell

[Mrz. Robinson]

Just one question? IF we are all supposed to be treated equally then why would this ban being removed be so bad?

To me it would help everyone to be treated equally.

[eelo]

Originally Posted by armygf707 At first the whole race card thing kinda pissed me off. But the more I think about it, the more I see your point. We used to have just all black regiments, and I know that there won't be any all gay regiments any time soon...or ever. I still don't know though because it would make many of the troops immensely uncomfortable. Eventually still, whether people want it to be or not,it will be lifted eventually. America is always headed towards equality for all. Blacks, women, and now homosexuals.

I think that's untrue. I believe it might make a FEW troops uncomfortable (and thankfully, fewer each generation), but those are only the ones who aren't progressing in their thought processes, the ones who can't get past personal quirks in a professional setting. Really, someone like that doesn't need to be in the military anyhow. The primary concern should be the mission, and the best way to meet the mission is to have the most qualified people out there performing it. Sexual orientation has nothing to do with one's qualifications/ability to do a job.

I am much more concerned with how well the person next to me does their job (especially if it's a high-stress area like a war zone or an operating room or a car crash or a burning building) than I am about which body parts they like to put where and in whom.

[kittieb]

As long as they still keep the same respect they had for the uniform then I think its alright.

[Chewy D]

He can go sit on a and spin.

[jessesq1]

Originally Posted by NDNatlGuardGF Ideally she would like people to live the way she believes is right, the way she was taught. But on the other hand you want people to live the way YOU think is right, so its really no different. You're asking of her the same thing she's asking of you. And Eelo- you said earlier that you were not taught those same things growing up in a Christian home. I'm curious how that is? If you actually read through the Bible there are places where it says that its wrong, and that marriage is between a man and a woman. If you don't believe that, thats fine, but being taught what Christianity is all about is being taught what the whole Bibe says, not just the parts that are easy to swallow. Also, I don't think its right to say that she's hiding behind her religion. For me, I think homosexuality is wrong. Period. It's what I've been taught and I believe that the Bible is right. You can't ask someone to prove their beliefs, that's why its called faith.

I guess having premarital is easier to swallow than homosexuality. Do as I say, not as I do, huh?

[eelo]

Originally Posted by jessesq1 I guess having premarital is easier to swallow than homosexuality. Do as I say, not as I do, huh?

You HAD to use "swallow," didn't you?

Yes, there are a LOT of things in the Bible that aren't acceptable in today's society: keeping girls out of school, dowries, beating one's wife, crucifixion, etc. We also know the earth revolves around the sun now, too.

[Aunt Sponge]

Originally Posted by eelo You HAD to use "swallow," didn't you? Yes, there are a LOT of things in the Bible that aren't acceptable in today's society: keeping girls out of school, dowries, beating one's wife, crucifixion, etc. We also know the earth revolves around the sun now, too.

Does it revolve around the sun! I thought the sun was a hole in the sky?
I'm confused!

[ARMEWIFE09]

At a get together among army families this topic came up and so many people on here are saying that the "guys" would have a problem with it but what I have found is that the "guys" are much more concerned with someone who uses cocaine or some type of drug being someone they have to rely on in a war zone rather than a person being gay or straight. That will not distill their ability to do their job.....Lift the ban, Christians are taught to hate the sin and not the sinner so all this judgement because I'm a Christian makes people hate Christianity.

Also I have my own beliefs being born and raised in a Christian home but I thank God for my best friend and her girlfriend who are the best parents to their daughter and show true examples of love everyday. So, again I say lift the ban and maybe give classes on how to work together for those that it's an issue for.

[Chewy D]

For the record, DADT doesn't keep gay peeps out of the military. They're already in. My best friend is a flaming homo, and he's going to boot camp in two months.

[ashleykaymay]

I quoted multiple posts and was going to write out a long ass answer to every last one. But DH just summed it up.....I know at least one person in this thread said they won't support homosexuality in the troops.....answer me this. Would you still not support them if that homosexual solider you judge was the man/woman who saved your spouse's life one day? Would you still look down on them for loving someone? Or would you realize that they are human and doing a selfless, wonderful job and you should support them just like you do every straight troop member and give them the chance to live their lives fully instead of hiding?

It's simple. Every solider...regardless of sexuality, is still a solider. And they deserve the same respect their fellow solider gets.