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    Special Forces and CID

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    Is anyone an SO of someone part of the Army Special Forces or CID??

    can anyone give me some information on either??

    please and thank you.
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    My dad was the commander of 10th MP which is the Ft. Bragg CID unit, for four years. I could ask him any questions you have.
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    well... i dont really even know what questions i have.... Andrew is looking into joining either the special forces or CID.... and... it all just sounds so.... not a supply specialist haha.

    i guess i just really want to know what i would have to expect being the wife of someone who is part of either of them... special forces just scares me... and i've never heard of CID before...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryanna View Post
    well... i dont really even know what questions i have.... Andrew is looking into joining either the special forces or CID.... and... it all just sounds so.... not a supply specialist haha.

    i guess i just really want to know what i would have to expect being the wife of someone who is part of either of them... special forces just scares me... and i've never heard of CID before...
    From what i have heard...my DH just got into special forces aviation....It is not easy for "FAMILIES". It takes a lot of trust and understanding. They can call up at any moment and tell your DH he needs to be ready to go tomorrow. And you wont know where they are or for how long. It just takes an extreme amount of trust. My DH was told by someone that a lot of marriages dont survive within special forces. But to each its own...its what you make of it! I dont know if that helped or hurt...but i just wanted to be honest about what i have heard.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryanna View Post
    well... i dont really even know what questions i have.... Andrew is looking into joining either the special forces or CID.... and... it all just sounds so.... not a supply specialist haha.

    i guess i just really want to know what i would have to expect being the wife of someone who is part of either of them... special forces just scares me... and i've never heard of CID before...
    http://www.cid.army.mil/

    From what I understand, you have to be an MP to become part of a CID unit, and they are spread out all over. When my dad was in charge of 10th, he also had soldiers spread out through quite a few different bases. If you want to check out the website above, I am sure Andrew could gather some info.

    As far as SF, does he want to actually become a Green Beret? or does he want to become SF support, or work with Special Operations? To become a Green Beret, he would go through the following. I snipped it from Wikipedia, because it explains it very clearly.

    "Special Forces Assessment & Selection

    SFAS is an evaluation that lasts 24 days. As of December 2007 a shortened SFAS of 14 days is being trialed.

    Enlisted selection at SFAS is normally around 30-35%. Many will not even complete the course instead choosing to Voluntarily Withdraw (VW), some will become injured and be 'Medically Dropped', and not all who complete the course will be selected; a 'Board' may decide that a candidate is simply not Special Forces material or not yet ready to attempt the next phase in training.

    Selection Outcomes

    * Those who do quit or who are Involuntarily Withdrawn by the course Cadre due to obvious inadequacies are generally awarded an NTR or Not-to-Return status. This will generally end a candidate's opportunity to ever become a Special Forces soldier. Existing military candidates will return to their previous units and IA candidates will be transferred to an infantry unit as an 11B Infantryman.
    * Generally candidates who are 'medically dropped' and who are not then medically discharged from the military due to serious injury are allowed to 'recycle' as soon as they are physically able to do so.
    * Individuals who complete the course but are 'Boarded' and not selected are generally given the opportunity to attempt selection again in 12 or 24 months but at this time this reattempt period can be heavily affected by deployments.

    Current Duty candidates usually return to their previous units to await being admitted to the Special Forces Qualification Course (SFQC). Because of the training backlog that the current Special Forces growth mission (33% over 5 years) has caused this wait can be anywhere from one to six months. Because an Initial Accession (IA) candidate lacks a 'previous unit' he will normally enter the Q Course immediately.

    [edit] MOS, Group, and Language Selection

    Upon selection at SFAS all Active Duty Enlisted Current Duty and IA candidates will be briefed on the

    * The five Special Forces Active Duty Groups
    * The four Special Forces Military Occupational Specialities (MOS) initially open to them
    * And the numerous languages that each Special Forces Group specializes in

    They will then fill in what is often referred to as a 'Wish List'. In this list an enlisted selected candidate will rank in order of preference the MOS he desires to be trained in (Bravo, Charlie, Delta, or Echo) and both selected enlisted and selected officer candidates will list in order of preference the Group he wishes to initially serve in (1st, 3rd, 5th, 7th, 10th) and the language he desires to be trained in.

    Language selection is dependent on the candidates Defense Language Aptitude Battery (DLAB) test score and which Group they are placed into. Different Groups focus on different areas of responsibilities (AORs) which require different languages.

    A Board will immediately convene to assign each enlisted and officer candidate his MOS, Group placement, and Language. The MOS, Group, and Language that a selected candidate is assigned is not guaranteed and is based upon the needs of the Special Forces community, but it is understood that generally 80% of selected candidates are awarded their primary choices.

    Upon successful completion of the Q-Course the recently graduated Active Duty Special Forces Soldier will be given orders to Permanent Change of Station (PCS) to the group they were given after SFAS.

    Both Current Duty and IA National Guard (ARNG) selected candidates will have already negotiated their MOS and Language selected and had it written into their enlistment contract prior to SFAS.

    Upon successful completion of the Q-Course the recently graduated ARNG Special Forces Solder will return the National Guard Group that he initially enlisted into (either 19th group (West coast) or 20th group (East coast)).

    [edit] Special Forces Qualification Course

    For various reasons 20% of selected candidates will not complete the demanding Q Course Training. Ultimately out of every four candidates who attend SFAS only one will eventually earn the right to wear the Green Beret. The Q-Course offers some of the toughest and longest training in the US military with training running as long as 26 months or more.

    When a candidate does enter the Q Course, he is assigned to the 1st Special Warfare Training Group (Airborne) at Fort Bragg. IA Candidates and Current Duty candidate who have not already attended, will attend the Primary Leadership Development Course (PLDC). The goal of the PLDC is to provide the candidate with the basic skills required to perform as an Non Commissioned Officer (NCO) at the rank of E5 (Sergeant); the minimum rank level of any Operation Detachment Alpha team member.

    Next an IA Candidate and all non Combat Arms trained Current Duty candidates will attend the Special Forces Preparation Course (SFPC), which is similar in nature to SOPC. SFPC is a three week course designed to familiarize SF candidates with basic Patrolling, Military Land Navigation and Woodland skills prior to attending the demanding second phase of the Q-Course.

    Phase II is a thirteen-week block of instruction in Small Unit Tactics (SUT), Prisoner of War training - Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape (SERE), and lethal hand to hand combat & element of surprise disarming techniques.

    After Phase II, recruits then begin Phase III for specific training within one of the five initial Special Forces specialties: 18A, SF Officer; 18B, SF Weapons Sergeant; 18C, SF Engineering Sergeant; 18D, SF Medical Sergeant; and 18E, SF Communications Sergeant. 18A, 18B, 18C, and 18E training courses are 16 weeks long, and the 18D training course is 48 weeks long.

    Following the completion of Phase III, recruits begin Phase IV called the "language blitz". Depending on the language assigned to the recruit, it is either nine or fifteen weeks of language training. Two two-week blocks of language training are already included in the Q-Course.

    The recruits finish their Special Forces training by participating in ROBIN SAGE, a large-scale unconventional warfare exercise (Phase V) before being awarded the Special Forces tab and Green Beret.[16]

    Active Duty candidates who successfully complete SFAS but are not already Airborne qualified are assigned a class date to attend Basic Airborne School at Ft. Benning, Georgia prior to reporting to Ft. Bragg.

    [edit] Further Training

    After successfully completing the Special Forces Qualification Course, Special Forces Soldiers are then eligible for many advanced skills courses. These include the Military Free Fall Parachutist Course, the Combat Diver Qualification Course, the Special Forces Sniper Course, and the Special Forces Advanced Reconnaissance and Target Exploitation Techniques Course. Additionally, Special Forces Soldiers may participate in special operations training courses offered by other services and allied nations throughout their careers."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...Special_Forces

    http://www.training.sfahq.com/

    The above is another site that is awesome at giving info.
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    oh wow... thanks jen!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryanna View Post
    oh wow... thanks jen!

    You're welcome hon.
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    My bf is an 18x which is a special forces candidate. i read his book on selection and know a lot about training. if you have any questions feel free to ask!

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