Sarah's Church

[kensington]

Originally Posted by eelo I'd say that this Max Blumenthal is a senior writer for The Daily Beast and writing fellow at The Nation Institute, whose book, Republican Gomorrah (Basic/Nation Books), is forthcoming in Fall 2009. pretty much means this isn't just "any crackpot."

No... He is a crackpot of high degree in the Dem world.

But, none the less... He is a crack pot and that story is pure hooey.

I've never heard of an AG church that believed that Eve had Sex with satan... I know they do not teach that. That's crazy.

[kensington]

Originally Posted by eelo He quotes dates, times, names, places. Are you saying these things aren't based i fact? If so, please disprove.

Actually, he uses names and dates.. to imply something towards her, but gives no actual factual proof that she is in any way connected to Todd Bently or Ted Haggart and their churches or ministries. He gave no real proof that her church believes any of the things he accused.

It was just a BIG pack of accusations and trying to tie her up in with a few people who have said strange things.

It basically says... these people believe this... that and the other, and oh by the way... Sarah Palin ran for office and won. And she is against abortion and homosexuality.

Duh... we knew that. But, I see no proof that she is affiliated with them, or even believes what they speak.

[bubbaswife]

That woman is coo-koo in the head. I can only that she never holds a major office again.

[mirph]

Originally Posted by vivalacrap Dude. As much as I would like to believe that she is irrelevant, it is looking increasingly more likely that Obama will not be reelected. Since he is selling out his base and acting like a spineless jellyfish and somehow managing to INFURIATE the right while disappointing the centrists... If he doesn't grow a spine the country will turn to the right. AGAIN. And we can't go much further right before we end up at fascism. Whoever we end up with will certainly be worse than Bush. And Palin, as much as I don't like her, is a pretty gifted politician in the "getting people to love her" sense. So to me, this is very relevant.

I know of several people personally who just LOVE her. And I mean LOVE her. She is the bees knees to these people!

[ashley5]

Originally Posted by kensington Actually, he uses names and dates.. to imply something towards her, but gives no actual factual proof that she is in any way connected to Todd Bently or Ted Haggart and their churches or ministries. He gave no real proof that her church believes any of the things he accused. It was just a BIG pack of accusations and trying to tie her up in with a few people who have said strange things. It basically says... these people believe this... that and the other, and oh by the way... Sarah Palin ran for office and won. And she is against abortion and homosexuality. Duh... we knew that. But, I see no proof that she is affiliated with them, or even believes what they speak.

Exactly.

It would be like going out and writing this same type of slander, except using the church that Obama was tied to. He doesn't believe in everything that's been said by those leaders, or others that are associated with the church. So why crucify him for it?

It's funny how things get turned the other way when it's not convenient for the left. We weren't allowed to talk about Obama's religion or the people he was affiliated with, and the slightest rumor comes out about Palin and people are ready to string her up.

[Viva]

Originally Posted by ashley5 Exactly. It would be like going out and writing this same type of slander, except using the church that Obama was tied to. He doesn't believe in everything that's been said by those leaders, or others that are associated with the church. So why crucify him for it? It's funny how things get turned the other way when it's not convenient for the left. We weren't allowed to talk about Obama's religion or the people he was affiliated with, and the slightest rumor comes out about Palin and people are ready to string her up.

Uh, like I said in my actual post, I didn't think the beliefs of Obama's church were dangerous. I think the beliefs of Palin's are. I actually hate churches all around, and that is not a secret. But Palin's beliefs are extreme. It's evident in the fact that she is AN EXTREMIST. And she always has been. I thought that before I knew the details of her belief system. And if that is what her church believes, it really doesn't surprise me that she is the way she is.

But like I said. Apologists. She does believe in witchcraft. There is video. How you can "not believe" when there is video proof is beyond me.

[J.Ski]

Originally Posted by ashley5 Exactly. It would be like going out and writing this same type of slander, except using the church that Obama was tied to. He doesn't believe in everything that's been said by those leaders, or others that are associated with the church. So why crucify him for it? It's funny how things get turned the other way when it's not convenient for the left. We weren't allowed to talk about Obama's religion or the people he was affiliated with, and the slightest rumor comes out about Palin and people are ready to string her up.

It was talked about ad nauseum during the election.

[ashley5]

Originally Posted by vivalacrap Uh, like I said in my actual post, I didn't think the beliefs of Obama's church were dangerous. I think the beliefs of Palin's are. I actually hate churches all around, and that is not a secret. But Palin's beliefs are extreme. It's evident in the fact that she is AN EXTREMIST. And she always has been. I thought that before I knew the details of her belief system. And if that is what her church believes, it really doesn't surprise me that she is the way she is. But like I said. Apologists. She does believe in witchcraft. There is video. How you can "not believe" when there is video proof is beyond me.

Really... and this video shows her what casting spells? I'm not an apologist, I'm a realist.

You don't think the church he attended was extreme, okay fine. You do think that her's is. But have you been to her church? Have you watched an online sermon?

Seriously, it's just a bunch of crap. Like people saying that her baby with down syndrome was actually her daughters. It's easy for people to hate Sarah Palin because she's successful and a good public speaker, much the same as many people don't like Obama.

You know, people can like her because of her policies not because I'm a religious whacko or extremest

Millions of people aren't wrong just because you watched a youtube video and read a crackpot story.

[Jennifer Lynn]

Originally Posted by ashley5 Really... and this video shows her what casting spells? I'm not an apologist, I'm a realist. You don't think the church he attended was extreme, okay fine. You do think that her's is. But have you been to her church? Have you watched an online sermon? Seriously, it's just a bunch of crap. Like people saying that her baby with down syndrome was actually her daughters. It's easy for people to hate Sarah Palin because she's successful and a good public speaker, much the same as many people don't like Obama. You know, people can like her because of her policies not because I'm a religious whacko or extremest Millions of people aren't wrong just because you watched a youtube video and read a crackpot story.

She didn't just watch a video, she found an excerpt from a book.

And what makes you so much credible that Hilary's excerpt?

And for the record, she was a ****TY public speaker who couldn't finish sentences, used crutch words, and WINKS to get her points across. My public speaking skills are much greater than Palin's, so no, that's not why I hate her.

[Viva]

Originally Posted by ashley5 Really... and this video shows her what casting spells? I'm not an apologist, I'm a realist. You don't think the church he attended was extreme, okay fine. You do think that her's is. But have you been to her church? Have you watched an online sermon? Seriously, it's just a bunch of crap. Like people saying that her baby with down syndrome was actually her daughters. It's easy for people to hate Sarah Palin because she's successful and a good public speaker, much the same as many people don't like Obama. You know, people can like her because of her policies not because I'm a religious whacko or extremest Millions of people aren't wrong just because you watched a youtube video and read a crackpot story.

WOW. Just. wow.

She doesn't even have any policies except hating abortion and gay people. Seriously. Get real. I'm sorry you think reality is too liberal for you... I can't really have a civil debate with anyone who insists on using their imagination instead of facts as a premise. Seriously. This is why people think the right is nuts.

And millions of people? Like 20% of the population are hardcore right wingers. The rest of us are afraid. Polling indicates that McCain lost in LARGE PART due to Palin. And Republicans are jumping ship from the party because she and a bunch of the rest of the extremists left are NUTCASES. Anyone who can't recognize that fact is clearly divorced from reality. Republicans have a problem. And that problem is PERSONIFIED by Palin.