McCain didn't like his country either

[eelo]

Originally Posted by jlbecker semantics in my opinion. why aren't people putting this much effort into discussing the real issues?

lol- and that's another good question! It shouldn't have been a big deal with either of them, but if the spouse of a candidate is going to be flamed for saying something, why shouldn't a candidate get flamed for saying something similar?

[Am]

Personally, I think what a candidate's spouse is saying is just as important. I think McCain's statement didn't get as much press because the media knew that most would interpret his as gaining a better appreciation at a young age when he was still figuring out what was important to him. She, on the other hand, JUST found a since of pride while her husband is running for the highest office. The opposite of pride is shame and I don't want a first lady who has been ashamed of this country for most of her life.

[Jennygirl]

Originally Posted by eelo My biggest question on this is, why did Michelle Obama's statement get SOOOOO much press (to the point where people commented on it after only having heard the media's sound-bites rather than the whole context), but McCain's statement didn't seem to make much news anywhere? Why the difference in how it was handled in and by the media? And why the emphasis on what the spouse of a candidate is saying, and no emphasis on what a candidate themself is saying? I just don't get the difference in coverage.

Ill answer this with my true and entire opinion, and which im sure to be flamed...

I think McCain and his family get away with a hell of a lot due to what HE went through himself. And I believe his camp and his PR reps have totally played that aspect and that aspect only to the American Public.

Michelle Obama said nothing wrong...Can we all honestly say that you have always been a zillion times supportive and understanding of this country, have any of us ever felt that this country did something that you are just ashamed of?

I think people support McCain more because he was a POW...

My husband was born into the military, his mom did well over 20 years in the army, he went to a military college, then joined up himself. I can honestly tell you he didnt resent this country because of his moms job or what not. He was an individual who can make up his own mind.

I honestly do not think that there is ANY difference in what the two said.

[eelo]

See, I don't think there's a difference in what they said, either. I do think there's a difference in the coverage, and that's what gets me. She had to spend weeks, months, explaining and defending her statement. He hasn't had to do anything of the sort; it's like it's been ignored and overlooked.

I don't get that.

[princessgwynn]

Umm probably because Democrats in general are seen as unpatriotic and seeing as M. Obama is associated with the Democratic party there is that automatic assumption by many. McCain on the other hand is Republican which means he gets the automatic assumption of patriotism. I know that sounds harsh but it is a pretty realistic view of many people.

[GlitterCrotch]

Originally Posted by Jennygirl Ill answer this with my true and entire opinion, and which im sure to be flamed... I think McCain and his family get away with a hell of a lot due to what HE went through himself. And I believe his camp and his PR reps have totally played that aspect and that aspect only to the American Public. Michelle Obama said nothing wrong...Can we all honestly say that you have always been a zillion times supportive and understanding of this country, have any of us ever felt that this country did something that you are just ashamed of? I think people support McCain more because he was a POW... My husband was born into the military, his mom did well over 20 years in the army, he went to a military college, then joined up himself. I can honestly tell you he didnt resent this country because of his moms job or what not. He was an individual who can make up his own mind. I honestly do not think that there is ANY difference in what the two said.

I never ever ever heard that he was a POW until today on this site.

[Jennygirl]

Originally Posted by eelo See, I don't think there's a difference in what they said, either. I do think there's a difference in the coverage, and that's what gets me. She had to spend weeks, months, explaining and defending her statement. He hasn't had to do anything of the sort; it's like it's been ignored and overlooked. I don't get that.

I agree a zillion perecent with this...Its because no matter in my opinion what he says its ok..Cause they will tug those heart strings some more.

[princessgwynn]

Originally Posted by Jennygirl Ill answer this with my true and entire opinion, and which im sure to be flamed... I think McCain and his family get away with a hell of a lot due to what HE went through himself. And I believe his camp and his PR reps have totally played that aspect and that aspect only to the American Public. Michelle Obama said nothing wrong...Can we all honestly say that you have always been a zillion times supportive and understanding of this country, have any of us ever felt that this country did something that you are just ashamed of? I think people support McCain more because he was a POW... I honestly do not think that there is ANY difference in what the two said.

Very well said- can I just add all of that to what I said?

[Jennygirl]

Originally Posted by princessgwynn Very well said- can I just add all of that to what I said?

Yes because I liked what you said LOL

[eelo]

Originally Posted by princessgwynn Umm probably because Democrats in general are seen as unpatriotic and seeing as M. Obama is associated with the Democratic party there is that automatic assumption by many. McCain on the other hand is Republican which means he gets the automatic assumption of patriotism. I know that sounds harsh but it is a pretty realistic view of many people.

What? Why do you say that Democrats are seen as unpatriotic? What makes you say there is an "...automatic assumption of patriotism..." for
Republicans?