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    Is violence ever provoked?

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    I was chatting with a guy about the Chris Brown/Rhianna situation. And somehow it came out that this guy said something like "well she must have done something, he wouldn't have snapped for no reason, she must have provoked him in some way".

    He said he didn't necessarily condone what he did, but he doesn't believe she is the innocent lamb people make her out to be. That men always get the shit end, that they never believe what a man has to say because the woman is always the 'victim' even if the woman 'started it' or she is the one that started smaking him, or yelling at him or whatever, that many time women just get off easy because they are the woman.

    I just ended the conversation, that was a bit much for me . I grew up in an abusive home, and around a physically and mentally abusive family all together (uncles, grandfather, etc).



    So anyway, what do you think? Do you think there is ever situations where a woman provokes a man and 'leads' him to hit her? Or that even if it was wrong, he was 'justified' because she started it?
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    Violence can be and often is provoked, but it is never justified.
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    I think if she physically assaulted him first, you could call it "provoking" but as she is MUCH smaller than him, you can't call his "retaliation" self defense. He could have walked away.

    So...that guy's argument makes little sense.
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    I've heard that too, that she "must have done something".

    He walked away after he hit her, he should have just walked away BEFORE it got to the point where he wanted to hit her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldilockz View Post
    Violence can be and often is provoked, but it is never justified.
    I agree


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    Quote Originally Posted by goldilockz View Post
    Violence can be and often is provoked, but it is never justified.
    Violence, especially in a partnership, is NEVER okay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldilockz View Post
    Violence can be and often is provoked, but it is never justified.
    Yes, completely agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldilockz View Post
    Violence can be and often is provoked, but it is never justified.

    This is word for word what I was going to say.
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    to me it's like saying a woman must have been asking to be raped, because they were wearing short shorts.

    i don't care how angry you are, the only time it is acceptable to hit another human being is for self-defense purposes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldilockz View Post
    Violence can be and often is provoked, but it is never justified.
    I agree with this statement. And i actually remember saying something like this to him. Well even if she did say something or yell or whatever, he wasn't justified in hitting her. He said, yea he was, she provoked him....oy
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